<div dir="ltr"><div>Lance, while I agree that the fossil fuel industry is harming all of us and especially minority communities, your continued reference to George Floyd is entirely inappropriate.<br></div><div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 1:22 PM Lance Olsen <<a href="mailto:lance@wildrockies.org">lance@wildrockies.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">I think you might agree that fossil fuel industry has its knee on all our necks, and especially on the necks of minority communities. </div></blockquote></div>

</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 1:24 PM Lance Olsen <<a href="mailto:lance@wildrockies.org">lance@wildrockies.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jun 17, 2020, at 11:41 AM, Annie Heuscher via Missoula-Community-News <<a href="mailto:missoula-community-news@bigskynet.org" target="_blank">missoula-community-news@bigskynet.org</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">I would strongly encourage you to cut back dramatically on your emails to this listserv (1-2 emails per<span> </span></span><i style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:14px;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">month<span> </span></i><span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">would be reasonable and would compare fairly with others' usage of the listserv)<span> </span></span></div></blockquote><br></div><div>I’ve been thinking the same thing lately</div><div>Lance</div><br><div>
<div dir="auto" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div dir="auto" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div dir="auto" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div dir="auto" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Verdana;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal"><div dir="auto" style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:14px"><div dir="auto" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div dir="auto" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div dir="auto" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal"><div style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:13px;line-height:normal;font-family:Verdana"><div dir="auto" style="font-size:14px"><div dir="auto" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div dir="auto" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal"><div style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Verdana"><div dir="auto" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div dir="auto" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div dir="auto" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal"><div style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Verdana"><span><span style="font-size:12px">^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^</span></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Verdana;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>Elizabeth Kolbert:</b> "</span><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> And I think the point that Bill has made, and I agree with it, is<b> </b></span><span style="background-color:rgb(255,251,0)"><b>maybe</b></span><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><b> </b>we can avoid the worst possible future. But I don’t think at this point we can avoid a lot, a lot, a lot of damage.”</span></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Verdana;min-height:16px"><span style="font-size:12px"><span></span><br></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Verdana;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><b>Bill McKibben:</b></span><span> <b style="background-color:rgb(255,251,0)">“Look, Betsy’s right. </b><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">So we’re not playing for stopping climate change. We’re playing</span> <b style="background-color:rgb(255,251,0)">maybe </b><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">for being able to slow it down to the point where it doesn’t make civilizations impossible.</span> </span><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">That’s an open question. There are scientists who tell you we’re already past that point. The consensus, at least for the moment, is that we’ve got a narrow and closing window, but that </span><b><span style="background-color:rgb(255,251,0)">if we move with everything we have,</span><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> then,</span></b><span style="background-color:rgb(255,251,0)"> <b>perhaps,</b></span><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> we’ll be able to squeeze a fair amount of our legacy through it. But Betsy is right, an already very difficult century is going to become a lot harder no matter what we do. It’s at this point trying to keep it from becoming not a difficult and even miserable century but a literally impossible one.”</span></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Verdana;color:rgb(0,105,217);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-size:12px"><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-new-yorker-interview/bill-mckibben-and-elizabeth-kolbert-on-the-un-extinction-report" target="_blank">https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-new-yorker-interview/bill-mckibben-and-elizabeth-kolbert-on-the-un-extinction-report</a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Verdana;color:rgb(0,105,217);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Verdana;color:rgb(0,105,217);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12px;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal"><span><div style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal"><span><b>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^</b></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal"><span><b><br></b></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal"><span><b>Camilo Mora:</b> “ ….  our choices for deadly heat are now between more of it or a lot more of it.”</span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;color:rgb(17,85,204)"><span style="text-decoration:underline"><a href="https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1161/circoutcomes.117.004233" target="_blank">https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1161/circoutcomes.117.004233</a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;min-height:15px"><br><span></span></div></span></div><div style="font-size:12px;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;color:rgb(49,68,93)"><span><b>Michael Mann:</b> “</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">“</span><span>A new normal makes it sound like we have arrived in a new position, and that's where we're going to be. </span><span>But if we continue to burn fossil fuels ... we are going to ... get worse and worse droughts, and heat waves, and super storms, and floods, and wildfires.”</span></div><div style="font-size:12px;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;color:rgb(17,85,204)"><span style="text-decoration:underline"><a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/climate-change-is-making-wildfires-more-extreme-heres-how" target="_blank">https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/climate-change-is-making-wildfires-more-extreme-heres-how<span></span></a></span></div><div style="font-size:12px;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;color:rgb(0,0,238);min-height:15px"><span></span><br></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12px;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal"><span><b>Kate Marvel:</b> “The whole idea that everything’s going to work out isn’t really helpful because it isn’t going to work out ” said Kate Marvel a climate scientist at the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies. Climate change is going to worsen to a point where millions of lives, homes, and species are put at risk she said. </span></div><div style="font-size:12px;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;color:rgb(17,85,204)"><span style="text-decoration:underline"><a href="https://newrepublic.com/article/151608/case-against-climate-pessimism" target="_blank">https://newrepublic.com/article/151608/case-against-climate-pessimism</a></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12px;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;min-height:15px"><br><span></span></div><div style="font-size:12px;margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;color:rgb(4,51,255)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>My own view:</b> <<</span><span style="text-decoration:underline"><a href="https://mountainjournal.org/why-rising-temps-mean-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it" target="_blank">https://mountainjournal.org/why-rising-temps-mean-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it</a></span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">>></span></div></div><div style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Verdana;color:rgb(17,85,204);min-height:16px"><span style="font-size:12px"><span></span><br></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Verdana;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-size:12px"><b>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^</b></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;font-family:Verdana;color:rgb(29,33,41)"><span style="font-size:12px"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">“A new area of study is the field that some of us are beginning to call social traps. </span><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);color:rgb(0,0,0)">The term refers to situations in society that contain </span><span style="background-color:rgb(255,251,0);color:rgb(0,0,0)">traps formally like a fish trap,</span><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);color:rgb(0,0,0)"> </span><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);color:rgb(0,0,0)">where men or whole societies get themselves started in some direction or some </span><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);color:rgb(0,0,0)">set of relationships that later prove to be unpleasant or lethal and that they see </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,251,0)">no easy way to back out of or to avoid."</span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;min-height:15px"><span style="font-size:12px"><span></span><br></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-size:12px">John Platt. Social Traps. American Psychologist, August 1973</span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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