[MCN] Atmosphere-Ocean-Land Interactions : State of the science in 2 updates on the high elevation Tibetan Plateau

Lance Olsen lance at wildrockies.org
Sat Mar 23 10:43:35 EDT 2024


Potential Impacts of Winter Arctic Sea Ice on Subsequent Spring Thermal Condition Over the Tibetan Plateau

 <https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2023JD040456>Wei Yu <https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/authored-by/Yu/Wei>, 
Song Yang <https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/authored-by/Yang/Song>, 
Yimin Liu <https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/authored-by/Liu/Yimin>, 
Ziqian Wang <https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/authored-by/Wang/Ziqian>, 
Dake Chen <https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/authored-by/Chen/Dake>, 
Lianlian Xu <https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/authored-by/Xu/Lianlian>, 
Tuantuan Zhang <https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/authored-by/Zhang/Tuantuan>
First Published:  20 March 2024
Key Points

A cross-seasonal linkage exists between winter sea ice over the north of Greenland and spring thermal condition over the TP

The linkage is established through a Rossby wave train extending along the Arctic, western Eurasia, and the western TP

The anticyclonic anomalies induced by the Rossby wave train weaken surface wind speed and thermal condition over the central-southern TP in spring

Abstract <https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1029/2023JD040456>Full text <https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2023JD040456>PDF <https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1029/2023JD040456>References <https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2023JD040456#reference>Request permissions <https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/action/rightsLink?doi=10.1029%2F2023JD040456&mode=>
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Influence of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation on Winter Temperatures and Precipitation Over the Southern Tibetan Plateau

 <https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2023JD038653>Yuying Xiang <https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/authored-by/Xiang/Yuying>, 
Tao Wang <https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/authored-by/Wang/Tao>, 
Huijun Wang <https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/authored-by/Wang/Huijun>, 
Hongna Xu <https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/authored-by/Xu/Hongna>
First Published:  19 March 2024
Key Points

The positive Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) can increase the precipitation and thereby decreasing the temperature in winter over the southern Tibetan Plateau

The horizontal advection of anomalous moist enthalpy is responsible for anomalous ascending motion and increased precipitation

The anomalous advection of zonal warm air is caused by warming of the tropical troposphere over the Indian Ocean due to the positive PDO

Abstract <https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1029/2023JD038653>Full text <https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2023JD038653>PDF <https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1029/2023JD038653>References <https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2023JD038653#reference>Request permissions <https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/action/rightsLink?doi=10.1029%2F2023JD038653&mode=>

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Greta Thunberg boils the basics down to just 5 words: “… and it will get worse”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhQVustYV24 <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhQVustYV24>


She knows it will get worse because climate scientists had made the same point; e.g., ….


Camilo Mora: “ ….  our choices for deadly heat are now between more of it or a lot more of it.”
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1161/circoutcomes.117.004233 <https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1161/circoutcomes.117.004233>

Michael Mann: ““A new normal makes it sound like we have arrived in a new position, and that's where we're going to be. But if we continue to burn fossil fuels ... we are going to ... get worse and worse droughts, and heat waves, and super storms, and floods, and wildfires.”
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/climate-change-is-making-wildfires-more-extreme-heres-how <https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/climate-change-is-making-wildfires-more-extreme-heres-how>

Kate Marvel: “The whole idea that everything’s going to work out isn’t really helpful because it isn’t going to work out ” said Kate Marvel a climate scientist at the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies. Climate change is going to worsen to a point where millions of lives, homes, and species are put at risk she said. 
https://newrepublic.com/article/151608/case-against-climate-pessimism <https://newrepublic.com/article/151608/case-against-climate-pessimism>

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“We don’t need to guard [ i.e., defend/protect ourselves ]  against depression, against anger, against despair when it comes to climate change.”

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2017/07/we_are_not_alarmed_enough_about_climate_change.html <http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2017/07/we_are_not_alarmed_enough_about_climate_change.html>


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Excerpt:  "Environmental psychologist Susi Moser, also talks about the importance of acknowledging our underlying fears and distress about climate change as an important coping strategy. Moser (2012) calls it ‘the bravest thing’ – getting real, accepting reality without illusions, and accepting that better tomorrows may not come.”

https://www.isthishowyoufeel.com/blog/how-do-people-cope-with-feelings-about-climate-change-so-that-they-stay-engaged-and-take-action <https://www.isthishowyoufeel.com/blog/how-do-people-cope-with-feelings-about-climate-change-so-that-they-stay-engaged-and-take-action>


My own view: <<https://mountainjournal.org/why-rising-temps-mean-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it>>

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