[MCN] "I can't breathe" -- if ocean fish could speak

Annie Heuscher annie.heuscher at gmail.com
Wed Jun 17 15:32:34 EDT 2020


Lance, while I agree that the fossil fuel industry is harming all of us and
especially minority communities, your continued reference to George Floyd
is entirely inappropriate.

On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 1:22 PM Lance Olsen <lance at wildrockies.org> wrote:

> I think you might agree that fossil fuel industry has its knee on all our
> necks, and especially on the necks of minority communities.
>

On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 1:24 PM Lance Olsen <lance at wildrockies.org> wrote:

>
>
> On Jun 17, 2020, at 11:41 AM, Annie Heuscher via Missoula-Community-News <
> missoula-community-news at bigskynet.org> wrote:
>
> I would strongly encourage you to cut back dramatically on your emails to
> this listserv (1-2 emails per *month *would be reasonable and would
> compare fairly with others' usage of the listserv)
>
>
> I’ve been thinking the same thing lately
> Lance
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> *Elizabeth Kolbert:* " And I think the point that Bill has made, and I
> agree with it, is *maybe* we can avoid the worst possible future. But I
> don’t think at this point we can avoid a lot, a lot, a lot of damage.”
>
> *Bill McKibben:* *“Look, Betsy’s right. *So we’re not playing for
> stopping climate change. We’re playing *maybe *for being able to slow it
> down to the point where it doesn’t make civilizations impossible. That’s
> an open question. There are scientists who tell you we’re already past that
> point. The consensus, at least for the moment, is that we’ve got a narrow
> and closing window, but that *if we move with everything we have, then,*
> *perhaps,* we’ll be able to squeeze a fair amount of our legacy through
> it. But Betsy is right, an already very difficult century is going to
> become a lot harder no matter what we do. It’s at this point trying to keep
> it from becoming not a difficult and even miserable century but a literally
> impossible one.”
>
> https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-new-yorker-interview/bill-mckibben-and-elizabeth-kolbert-on-the-un-extinction-report
>
> *^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^*
>
> *Camilo Mora:* “ ….  our choices for deadly heat are now between more of
> it or a lot more of it.”
> https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1161/circoutcomes.117.004233
>
> *Michael Mann:* ““A new normal makes it sound like we have arrived in a
> new position, and that's where we're going to be. But if we continue to
> burn fossil fuels ... we are going to ... get worse and worse droughts, and
> heat waves, and super storms, and floods, and wildfires.”
>
> https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/climate-change-is-making-wildfires-more-extreme-heres-how
>
> *Kate Marvel:* “The whole idea that everything’s going to work out isn’t
> really helpful because it isn’t going to work out ” said Kate Marvel a
> climate scientist at the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies. Climate
> change is going to worsen to a point where millions of lives, homes, and
> species are put at risk she said.
> https://newrepublic.com/article/151608/case-against-climate-pessimism
>
> *My own view:* <<
> https://mountainjournal.org/why-rising-temps-mean-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it
> >>
>
> *^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^*
> “A new area of study is the field that some of us are beginning to call
> social traps. The term refers to situations in society that contain traps formally
> like a fish trap, where men or whole societies get themselves started in
> some direction or some set of relationships that later prove to be
> unpleasant or lethal and that they see no easy way to back out of or to
> avoid."
>
> John Platt. Social Traps. American Psychologist, August 1973
>
>
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